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Automated TDD in TES 0.20.0 - hidden Timing diagrams

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Hello. 

I use TES 0.20.0 on Windows 10 OS. While experimenting with Automated TDD, I observe that Timing diagrams are not shown in the pop-up window as in Figure 305. Automated TDD Timing Diagram, see screenshot below. Is this a known issue?

Further, I would like to politely ask you to provide some more insight to terminology "Primary Assert/Deassert, Secondary Assert/Deassert". I do not follow Figure 306. TDD Frame Timing Illustration and the explanation is very brief. Is the purpose to allow two different lengths of Rx/Tx time slots? Meaning, only Primary Assert/Deassert could be used? 

Thank you and Regards,
Jakub

  • Hi Jakub,

    The Auto TDD diagrams are know to work in TES v20. I have noticed that sometimes that I have to change the size for it to reload. Does that help at all? 

    In these TDD diagrams, primary/secondary simply mean first/second. Also, assert/deassert means setting the signal high/low. For example, the first time you set the signal high in a frame is called the primary assert. Having primary and secondary signals allow the signal to be asserted/deasserted twice in a single frame at different times and for different lengths of time.

    Best Regards,

    Conrad

  • Hello, thank you for fast response, changing the size of the windows does not help me. I have never seen the Timing diagram, yet.

    I have tried to change the compatibility settings according to this post  ADRV900x TES GUI not visible and showing strange sizes of display but it did not help either.

    Thank you for the primary/secondary explanation, I was not sure about the motivation.

  • Hi Jakub,

    I don't mean to change the size of the window. There is a dropdown menu to change the size of the diagram. If you change this dropdown to a different size, it can refresh the diagram.

    Best Regards,

    Conrad

  • Hi Conrad, 

    unfortunately, changing options of the "Size" select box did not work for me either. I performed many changes of all parameters in both, Pin Activity and Hop Activity with no diagram shown.

    Best regards,

    Jakub

  • Hi Jakub,

    Ok, that is unexpected behaviour.

    Is your hardware connected or are you using demo-mode?

    Best Regards,

    Conrad

  • Hi Conrad,

    I tried this for both - demo-mode and hardware connected - with the same results.

    Note, Automated TDD with HW connected seems to work fine, the only problem are the diagrams.

    Thank you,
    Jakub

  • Dear Conrad, 

    Same issue as it is described by Jakub.

    Regards,

    Dominik

  • Hi Jakub, Dominik,

    Thanks for your patience. We haven't come across this before and I can't seem to replicate it. I've just asked one of our developers on this. See below their response:

    Hi Jakub,
    I am sorry you are having this experience with our software. Unfortunately I cannot determine the source of the problem immediately; however, there are ways we can investigate to get closer to a solution.
    You can open a Windows File Explorer, clear the file path from the navigation bar, and type exactly this:

    %TEMP%/Analog Devices/Argo/TiDis

    Then press "Enter". Your File Explorer should take you to a directory that looks something like C:\Users\Jakub\AppData\Local\Temp\Analog Devices\Argo\TiDis
    Next, try to get the TES v20 to generate a timing diagram. Just open the Automated TDD Timing Diagram and change a few parameters, or change the size as Conrad mentioned.
    In your File Explorer you may notice one of the following:
    • The TiDis directory fills up with Timmy files (*.tim) and Windows Metafile Format files (*.wmf). There should be one Timmy file and one WMF file for each time you attempt to generate a timing diagram.

    • The TiDis directory fills up with Timmy files (*.tim) but does not contain any Windows Metafile Format files (*.wmf). 

    • The TiDis directory never contains any files, even after refreshing the File Explorer, no matter how many times you try to generate a timing diagram.
    Depending upon what you observe, your next steps are as follows:
    • If you see WMF files, try to open one of them. Just double-click on the file, and it will show up in MS Paint or a similar application. What does it look like? If it looks like a timing diagram, then the diagrams are generating correctly, but not displaying in TES. Let me know, and I will try to investigate why this would happen.
    • If you see Timmy files, but not WMF files, see if you can attach a few Timmy files to this ticket. I will review them to see if I can recreate the problem. At the same time, you can also navigate to the directory where you installed TES (this might be in your Program Files or your Desktop) and check inside the TES installation directory to see if there is a directory called "Tools." That Tools directory should in turn contain the following:
      • Qt5Core.dll
      • Qt5Gui.dll
      • Qt5Network.dll
      • Qt5PrintSupport.dll
      • Qt5Svg.dll
      • Qt5Widgets.dll
      • Qt5Xml.dll
      • Tcl85.dll
      • timmy.exe

        If any of these files is NOT present in "Tools", delete your entire installation of TES and re-install from a fresh download of the installer.

    • If you do not see either Timmy or WMF files, let me know. Also, in general, it's a good idea to check the log file which is accessible from a Log File button at the top of your screen. The log file viewer window contains a button "Copy Path" which will easily allow you to attach the log file to this ticket.

    Please take a look and see if you can share any more information with us.

    Best Regards,

    Conrad

  • Hi Conrad,

    thank you for your response. For me, the following statement is true:

    The TiDis directory fills up with Timmy files (*.tim) but does not contain any Windows Metafile Format files (*.wmf). 

    I enclose 10 *.tim files in *.zip archive. Note, some of them are in No-Hardware mode, some of them are with Device-connected.

    I checked content of Tools directory and all above mentioned files are present, see screenshot below. Note, I tried this also on my Windows 10 laptop and the result was the same.

    If you want me to share a log file, please, let me know what scenario should it contain.

    tim_files.zip

    Edit: Few more *.tim files in my own scenario:

    TiDis.zip

    Thank you!

    Jakub

  • Dear Conrad,

    In my case, only *.tim-files are available but no *.wmf-files.

    See attachment.

    "Tools" contains all listet *.dll and .exe files.

    Regards,

    Dominik1614.TiDis.zip