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Why is the output voltage of the ADR3650A outside the expected range?

Category: Hardware
Product Number: ADR3650

Hello,

I'm using an ADR3650ARMZ voltage reference with a 20-bit ADC (AD4020BRMZ). We have noticed an issue with some ADR3650A units after power-up. Occasionally, the output voltage (5V) of the ADR3650A does not fall within the specified range (Datasheet +/-0.08% => 4.996 to 5.004 V). In fact, most of the time we measure 4.999V, but occasionally, on start-up with certain ICs, the reference voltage stabilizes at a voltage > 5 V + 0.08% (for example 5.013 V or 5.021 V => 0.42%). This problem occurs in around 10% of chips (always the same identified). And unfortunately, it's not always easy to reproduce the problem.

The input voltage of the ADR3650 is +5.8V and is generated by an LT3045. The output voltage is connected to:

  • a op-amp follower connected to the ADC Vref pin
  • a 2x10k resistive divider with an op-amp follower to provide a Vref/2 voltage
  • 100nF and 1μF

The difference in Vref output voltage is causing a major problem for our ADC conversion of the measurement signal between system power-ups.

Do you have any idea what might explain this behavior of the ADR3650A?

The LT3045 currently has a soft start of around 700ms. Could it be that the Vref doesn’t like slow voltage rises?

Are we drawing insufficient current from the output (currently 0.25mA)?  I haven’t seen any minimum requirement in the datasheet.

The dropout voltage is 0.8V. It's more than the minimum 0.3V (in 10mA specification). Am I right?

Could a poor soldering profile have damaged some of the ICs?

If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

Thank you

Sebastien

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  • Hi Sebastien,

    Thanks for reaching out. To clarify, are the parts that are sitting outside the specified range always the same parts, and are they always outside the range? Are they always >5.004V, or are you seeing units at <4.996V as well?

    You also mentioned having difficulty reproducing this--are you saying these previously outside-of-range parts end up back in spec when they are powered-on again?

  • Hi, 

    Yes, the components that do not meet the specifications are always the same (once identified). And when they fall outside the range (>5.004V), each one has its own specific value, for example: one is always at 5.021V, another at 5.014V, and so on. When these components are not faulty, they read 4.999V. No component has fallen below the range <4.996V. The problem always occurs above 5.004V.
    The problem occurs occasionally after the power supply is switched on. When the problem occurs on certain ADR3650s, the Vref voltages remain stable at their incorrect value. If the power is switched off and on again, the Vref voltage may reset correctly (4.999V).
    Please note that our product is equipped with 25 circuits containing an ADC and the ADR3650 Vref. Most of the time, the power supplies start up correctly. The problem occurs approximately once in ten cases and affects 10% of the ICs installed. (I can move the ADC circuits to my main board; the problem follows the ADC circuit and is not specific to the placement of the ADC circuit within the product).

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  • Hi, 

    Yes, the components that do not meet the specifications are always the same (once identified). And when they fall outside the range (>5.004V), each one has its own specific value, for example: one is always at 5.021V, another at 5.014V, and so on. When these components are not faulty, they read 4.999V. No component has fallen below the range <4.996V. The problem always occurs above 5.004V.
    The problem occurs occasionally after the power supply is switched on. When the problem occurs on certain ADR3650s, the Vref voltages remain stable at their incorrect value. If the power is switched off and on again, the Vref voltage may reset correctly (4.999V).
    Please note that our product is equipped with 25 circuits containing an ADC and the ADR3650 Vref. Most of the time, the power supplies start up correctly. The problem occurs approximately once in ten cases and affects 10% of the ICs installed. (I can move the ADC circuits to my main board; the problem follows the ADC circuit and is not specific to the placement of the ADC circuit within the product).

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