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AD725 noise on PAL/NTSC output

Hi,

I'm working with AD725 component to output a live video in PAL or NTSC. I succeed in converting VGA signals into PAL and NTSC by creating hsync and vsync signals and interlacing datas. Now it seems that I have a noise problem on displayed video. I think screenshots are the best way to describe it :

On the first picture, a screenshot of what i'm "supposed" to display with AD725.

On the second picture : what I'm currently diplaying

(Verticals white line are due to another problem independent of displayed video)

On second picture, we can see vertical lines that are not supposed to be here. I really don't know from where it comes but the displayed video is really poor with it. It appears to be more and more visible when displaying dark fields as we can see in the next pictures :

I already checked schematics compared to AD725-EVB. Decoupling seems to be ok. I have no idea where to look to solve this problem.

This problem is the same with PAL and NTSC output. I'm using composite output.

Any idea ?

Thank you for your help.

Is there anything in your circuit that generates a frequency that is locked to the horizontal syncs rate?  It looks like noise is getting injected into the vga outputs but seemingly very stable noise.

  • No, I have anything locked to the hsync rate. However I added an SVideo output yersterday ; noise is still a bit visible  and quality image is far better. So I supposed this problem is due to dot crawl... but I didn't expect it to be so visible with a composite video output.

  • This still looks like something is locked to the horizontal sync.  Can you capture the green input to make sure it is not peaking when the output is white.

    Also the last image shows what looks like a secondary problem, the ghosting of the vertical lines.  These are the dimmer vertical lines to the right of the bright vertical lines.  This is normally caused by signal reflections, reflections caused by trace termination mismatches and/or stubs on the signal trance. 

  • Here is the green input capture when displaying the second image :

    Blue and red input are seemingly identical to this capture.

    Concerning the ghosting of vertical lines, I really don't know where it comes from. I respected all advices given in datasheet. Decoupling seems to be good ...

  • The source of those spikes is causing the problem.  The ADV725 is converting the input correctly.  You need to find what is causing those spikes

  • These spikes correspond to white vertical lines. The sensor i'm using has an assignement problem, i'm currently working with it to to some tests. I'll have new boards in a couple of month. But it's clearly independent from PAL/NTSC generation.

  • I also have another problem with color burst :

    On first picture, what i get without chrominance,

    On second picture, what i get with chrominance. I'm just sending the same datas for RGB datas but the result is pretty bad, I checked burst color amplitude and duration and it seems to be correct. I don't know why I have color noise on displayed video. Any idea ?

    Thank you !

  • You need to get a good image first without the vertical bars.  The extra color I'm seeing looks like ghosting I mentioned above.  May also be due to the fact that you are over driving the inputs. 

  • I now have a good image without vertical bars. Here is what I get and what I'm supposed to have  in PAL : 

    I still have vertical ghosting at the beinning of the picture and a lot of noise in horizontal lines. I don't have noise when I don't use chrominance.

    In NTSC mode, I dont' have colour, I'm using NX3225SA-14.318180MHZ. However RGB input signals are at correct levels.

  • Ghosting I was speaking of only occurs on a single horizontal line.  When you stack multiple horizontal lines on top of each other you will get what appears to be a vertical line like one of you earlier pictures.

    Looking at the last image it looks like system noise.