Does the current version of ADISimPLL work with Windows 7
Yes the current version (v3.3) installs and works on Windows 7 (both 32-bit & 64-bit versions)
If you find any problems running it on Windows7 please post to the ADIsimPLL forum at:
For all previous upgrades and changes I could modify a user defined OP-AMP. I haven’t been able to do so in Win 7 with version 3.4. Also where do I copy all the VCO I created in Win 7? These used to just mix in with the existing libraries under program files/all uses/…
I also replied in kind to Applied Radios site.
The library files are stored in the default location for application data - this is OS dependent.
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Applied Radio labs\lib
Vista and Win7:
C:\ProgramData\Applied Radio labs\lib
The best way to find out where ADIsimPLL is looking for librayr files is to run the program, and from the main menu choose
Libraries / Explore Library Directory.
What is the problem with the Op Amps? The only change made a couple of releases ago was to ensure the power supply voltages were set in the Wizard, as the loop filter output swing is needed there for searching for suitable VCOs. All op amp parameters should still be adjustable.
It’s not so simple. When I copied over to the hone brewed VCO in WIN7 and
added them to the newly installed libiary as I had been doing for 5 years
they were not recognized by the simulator. I have over 20 custom VCO's
ranging from my own designs to mm VCO's from Silversima, Synergy, etc (some
data was measured other hard to get) that I do not want to painfially
reenter! These large accumulations of VCO modeling has easily transfered
over in all orevous attempts up untill Win 7? Maybe it’s the way I blended
the libraries together following my 5 year of successful pattern. I simply
repeated the earlier procedure of pasting my user defined VCO files into the
existing library with has proved bullet proof untill now?
As for the Op-Amps the programs simple doesn't seem to have an opening (hook
for lack of better word) for user defined low noise OP-Amps that are not
manufactured by Analog devices entry data the way it did in Win 7. I use
T.I. devices for all my PLL's, personal preference. The data entry point for
creating OP_Amps appears to be missing!
James Carlini Microwave and Analog Engineer
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:23 AM, PeterW <
When I copied over to the hone brewed VCO in WIN7 and added them to the newly installed libiary as I had been doing for 5 years they were not recognized by the simulator. When I copied over to the hone brewed VCO in WIN7 and added them to the newly installed libiary as I had been doing for 5 years they were not recognized by the simulator.
Where did you put them? Did you check the location of the library directory as I suggested? The only thing that is different in a Win7 installation is the location of the working library directory as described above. If they are in the right place but not being recognised, try deleting the .sfm files, the program will recreate them. There is a chance that if you have copied across old versions of .sfm files, then that could be a problem.
I simply repeated the earlier procedure of pasting my user defined VCO files into the existing library with has proved bullet proof untill now?
This is fine, but I'd suggest that you use separate files rather than adding your models to the core library files that come with ADIsimPLL as future software releases are likely to overwrite the core libraries with updated versions.
As for the Op-Amps the programs simple doesn't seem to have an opening (hook for lack of better word) for user defined low noise OP-Amps
What do you mean, what can't you do?
1. I’m not a novice with PLL’s or ADIpllSIM having designed PLL’s for
17 years and using this strong program since its conception with Analog
The Path provided by the VCO editor in WIN 7 is Program Data/Applied Radio
I created a VCO and then used search to find it was under C/ program files
x86/ Applied Radio Labs/ADIsimPLL Ver. 3.4/Bin Backup/VCO
As mentioned I really don’t know where to but my years worth of VCO models
and don’t want to remodel them if at all possible. I have checked all
obvious to me paths to place the VCO files into so as to blend them into the
existing VCO library. I have navigated around looking but am open to
suggestions. The VCO editor does not appear to provide the answer.
2. In Win 7 using version 3.4, how do I add 2 Texas Instruments OP
Amps to a library?
· In the past the program had a provision for this
Jim Microwave-Analog Engineer
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:01 PM, PeterW <
Thanks for providing some file locations, I suspect that they are the clue.
The Path provided by the VCO editor in WIN 7 is Program Data/Applied Radio Labs/ ADIsimPLL/Lib/VCO
I created a VCO and then used search to find it was under C/ program files x86/ Applied Radio Labs/ADIsimPLL Ver. 3.4/Bin Backup/VCO
It's not exactly clear what the first path is, but the fact that you have two different ones suggests that you are creating models in one place and ADIsimPLL is looking in another.
The place where ADIsimPLL searches for library files is easily found from the main menu under Libraries / Explore Library Directory. You must put library files in the appropriate subdirectory here (/vco, /ref, .OpAmp etc.) for ADIsimPLL to find them. This is explained in the help file. You should be able to simply copy in your own VCO library files into the /vco subdirectory, just as you did on previous versions. Don't copy the .sfm files, these will be recreated.
A problem in earlier versions was that the VCO library editor tended to default to saving library files in the My Documents directory, and it was necessary to navigate to the library directory in order to put them in the right place. What should happen now is that the VCO library editor defaults to the /vco subdirectory under the ADIsimPLL library directory, i.e. the right place to save the file. Please let me know if this is not happening (e.g. start the VCO library editor, then go Open, the explorer file open box should show the /vco directory in the current ADIsimPLL library directory)
If you place your op-amp library file from your previous version in the /OpAmp directory in the library directory that ADIsimPLL is searching, then these should appear as options as in the previous version.
By the way Peter I also installed 3.4 on a machine with XP and it worked
fully as expected, as far as blending the library's. I will give it another
crack later in the week. I agree confusion exist where the files are placed.
However I have tried like to root it out, something tricky is going on in my
new Win 7 64 bit machine?
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:29 AM, PeterW <
I found Win & default setting hid the path for the libraries. I had to
unhide them folders and files under control panel. Then they appeared on my
Everything is in order. Never expected Win 7 to hide system folders.
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