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  • +RF Switches & Attenuators: FAQ
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  • +AD8361: FAQ
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  • -AD8363: FAQ
    • AD8363: Using INHI vs. INLO for Wideband Applications
    • ADL5902 RMS Detector Output Voltage Clamping for High Input Power Levels
    • Alternatives to  AD8362 High Range RF RMS Detector
    • Can the AD8362 Logarithmic RMS Detector accurately WiMax and LTE?
    • Operating the AD8362 Evaluation Board at Low Frequencies
    • Operating the AD8364 dual RMS Detector at frequencies below 450 MHz
    • Reducing the Response Time of an RMS Detector
    • S-Paramters for a RMS-responding RF Detectors
    • AD8363: Part-to-Part variation
  • +AD8364: FAQ
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S-Paramters for a RMS-responding RF Detectors

Question: Are S-Parameters available rms-responding RF detectors such as AD8362 or ADL5902? Or is there some kind of a behavioral model available for these devices.

Answer: We do not publish s-parameters for rf detectors. It is not really meaningful to talk about an RF detector having a full set of s-parameters. While you could measure the input return loss (S11) of the RF input of an  rf detector, you can't really talk about the the S21 since the output is not linearly related to the input. Also since the rf detector output looks like dc if the instantaneous input power to the detector is constant, you cannot talk about there being a phase relationship between the input and the output.

If you are trying to model the behavior of an rf detector with a linear-in-dB transfer function, the following equation may be helpful.

Vout = Slope x (Pin - Intercept)

where

Vout is the predicted output voltage of the rf detector

Pin is the input signal to the rf detector expressed in dBm

Slope is the incremental relationship between input power and otuput voltaqge (i.e. deltaVout/deltaPin), expressed in mV/dB or V/dB

Intercept is an extrapolation of the rf detector's transfer function. The Intercept is the extrapolated input power level that would result in a detector output voltage of 0 V.

This equation is only an approximation. It assumes that the  transfer function of the device is a perfect (linear-in-dB) straight line and that the device has an infinite input power range. In reality the RF detector will have a limited range over which the transfer function follows the equation. And the real world transfer function will have some ripple and non-linearity. However, the equation does serve as a useful model for device operation within its linear power range.

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