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3.3V power supplies

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The user inquired about using a single LDO to power both 3.3 V supply groups of the ADF4382 PLL. The final answer indicates it is possible but may degrade phase noise due to noise coupling. Recommendations include using separate filtering or ferrite beads to isolate the sensitive (VCO, OUTDIV, RFOUTx) and digital/PFD groups, with a maximum 0.3 V drop. The accompanying answer suggests using a dual-output LDO like the LT3029 or MAX25307, or a small single LDO like the MAX38902 to address space constraints.
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Product Number: ADF4382

Hi team,

i'm using the PLL ADF4382 for a new project.

I read in the datasheet and the user guide that the +3.3 V power supplies are divided into two separate groups, each powered by its own dedicated LDO.

Would it be possible to use a single LDO to supply both groups? 

Would any phase noise degradation be expected if a single LDO were used to supply both groups?

Thank you in advance.

Best Regard,

Matteo Ricci

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  • Yes, it is possible to power both 3.3 V supply groups of the ADF4382 from a single LDO, but with some important caveats.

    The two 3.3 V groups are separated to keep sensitive blocks (VCO, output dividers, RF outputs) isolated from potentially noisy digital/phase-detector related rails (e.g., V3_PFD, NDIV). This partitioning is a precaution to prevent switching noise from coupling into the VCO and degrading phase noise. It is not strictly proven that separate regulators are mandatory, but it is the recommended configuration for best performance. 

    If you use a single LDO, you should at minimum:

    • Use separate filtering/inductor or ferrite bead isolation for the “sensitive” group (VCO, OUTDIV, RFOUTx) versus the “digital/PFD” group to limit noise coupling.

    • Ensure the bead/filters do not introduce more than about 0.3 V drop or violation of rail tracking, since supply differences between rails should stay within about ±0.3 V of each other.

    Phase-noise degradation is possible if noise from the PFD/digital section couples into the VCO supply when everything is tied directly together. As a result we often  recommend separate LDOs (or at least well-isolated subrails) for analog, digital, and VCO supplies to minimize this risk. Using one high‑quality LDO plus proper LC/ferrite isolation is often an acceptable compromise, but strictly best-in-class phase noise is more likely with fully separate regulators. 

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  • Yes, it is possible to power both 3.3 V supply groups of the ADF4382 from a single LDO, but with some important caveats.

    The two 3.3 V groups are separated to keep sensitive blocks (VCO, output dividers, RF outputs) isolated from potentially noisy digital/phase-detector related rails (e.g., V3_PFD, NDIV). This partitioning is a precaution to prevent switching noise from coupling into the VCO and degrading phase noise. It is not strictly proven that separate regulators are mandatory, but it is the recommended configuration for best performance. 

    If you use a single LDO, you should at minimum:

    • Use separate filtering/inductor or ferrite bead isolation for the “sensitive” group (VCO, OUTDIV, RFOUTx) versus the “digital/PFD” group to limit noise coupling.

    • Ensure the bead/filters do not introduce more than about 0.3 V drop or violation of rail tracking, since supply differences between rails should stay within about ±0.3 V of each other.

    Phase-noise degradation is possible if noise from the PFD/digital section couples into the VCO supply when everything is tied directly together. As a result we often  recommend separate LDOs (or at least well-isolated subrails) for analog, digital, and VCO supplies to minimize this risk. Using one high‑quality LDO plus proper LC/ferrite isolation is often an acceptable compromise, but strictly best-in-class phase noise is more likely with fully separate regulators. 

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