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LO Feed-through improvement

Category: Hardware
Product Number: LTC5589

Hi,

I am looking at some pulses created using the LTC5589 in the time domain and see a large increase in the noise floor as soon as I enable the 1GHz LO (provided by a ADF4351). My guess is that this could just be LO leaking into the RF but wanted to make sure and ask if there is any way to improve (lower the feedthrough) on it?

I have attached a screenshot of what I am seeing in the time domain. The noise is at about -70dBm then when I enable the LO it jumps up to about -48dBm. The two pulses afterwards is just a test signal and expected. This higher noise will remain until I disable the LO again. Adjusting the IQ gain moves this floor up and down by about the same amount as the test signal amplitude. I also played with the IQ offsets which slightly (about 1 to 2dB) lowers this floor. Disabling the Q channel makes a significant difference and drops it by about 6dB.

The datasheet gives carrier leakage at LO=800MHz as -46dBm, so maybe my result are as expected. If so what can I do with external circuitry to reduce the LO leakage?

Thank you for your time

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  • Hi Jan,

    I'm better understanding now the time domain and frequency domain plots. I would have expected both to be equal. Shouldn't   the marker in the frequency plot (-63 dBm) be equal to the time domain level (-47dBm). But, leaving that aside, yes, if you have the inputs ac-coupled, your dominant output power should come from LO Leakage. 

    I think that you should be able to get more out of the I and Q offset adjustment. The datasheet says that it can be reduced from -43 dBm to -64 dBm. There is a section in the datasheet that discusses the approach to tweaking the I and Q offset. I'm also attaching a link to an old ap-note on the topic. In this we suggest sweeping the I offset until you find an initial minimum. Then with I value held, you sweep Q and look for a deeper trough. Finally, you can do a third sweep of I to fine tune things. It can be done in any order, that is, I first or Q first. But when the temperature changes, much of this good work goes out the window (unless you are willing to re-cal over temperature). 

    The noise floor does look a bit messy in the frequency domain plot. But it's well below the fundamental tone (the LO Leakage) at -63 dBm. It may be from your signal generator or it may be pick-up. 

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  • Hi Jan,

    I'm better understanding now the time domain and frequency domain plots. I would have expected both to be equal. Shouldn't   the marker in the frequency plot (-63 dBm) be equal to the time domain level (-47dBm). But, leaving that aside, yes, if you have the inputs ac-coupled, your dominant output power should come from LO Leakage. 

    I think that you should be able to get more out of the I and Q offset adjustment. The datasheet says that it can be reduced from -43 dBm to -64 dBm. There is a section in the datasheet that discusses the approach to tweaking the I and Q offset. I'm also attaching a link to an old ap-note on the topic. In this we suggest sweeping the I offset until you find an initial minimum. Then with I value held, you sweep Q and look for a deeper trough. Finally, you can do a third sweep of I to fine tune things. It can be done in any order, that is, I first or Q first. But when the temperature changes, much of this good work goes out the window (unless you are willing to re-cal over temperature). 

    The noise floor does look a bit messy in the frequency domain plot. But it's well below the fundamental tone (the LO Leakage) at -63 dBm. It may be from your signal generator or it may be pick-up. 

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