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Category: Hardware
Product Number: AD8362

I am requesting to ... Can i use AD8362 device as the Emf detector ... If can we ... how to connect this board to ardunio uno ?

  • It's a while since I've dealt with Electromotive Force (EMV). What I can say is that the AD8362 responds to the differential voltage that is presented at its input which has a nominal input resistance of 200 ohms (we usually put a 1-to-4 balun in front of the device to make the net input resistance 50 ohms). So that is what the AD8362 presents at is input. Whether that allows measurement of EMF, I'm not sure. Regarding interface to the Arduino, this should be possible. I believe that Arduino has an on-board 10-Bit ADC with an input range of 0 to 5V. The AD8362 output can drive this directly.  

  • thank you so much your replay ... i have another doubts like..

    1. ( slope, intercept voltage, and dBm intercept ) Are these consistent with the AD8362 datasheet and typical operation?

    2. Is the slope of 50 mV/dB a standard or average value for the AD8352 over the frequency range?

    3. Does an intercept voltage of 0.0 V correspond to −60 dBm input power make sense, or should I expect a different value based on the datasheet?

    4. How critical is it to adjust these constants for accuracy, and can I rely on these default values for basic EMF detection without a lab calibration setup?

    Any guidance, corrections, or pointers to calibration recommendations would be great to me ...

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    1. ( slope, intercept voltage, and dBm intercept ) Are these consistent with the AD8362 datasheet and typical operation?  Yes, in the specification table, you will see typical slope and intercept values at different frequencies. These values will change from part to part. Figures 18 to 25 provide statistical data on these variations.
    2. Is the slope of 50 mV/dB a standard or average value for the AD8352 over the frequency range? 50mV/dB is the average value at 900 MHz. At other frequencies it will vary slightly (e.g. the averate at 1900 MHz is 51mV/dB)
    3. Does an intercept voltage of 0.0 V correspond to −60 dBm input power make sense, or should I expect a different value based on the datasheet? The specified Intercept is an extrapolation. It is the input power level that would give an output voltage of 0V if the linear portion of the Vout-vs-Pin curves (roughly -55dBm to +10dBm) was extrapolated.
    4. How critical is it to adjust these constants for accuracy, and can I rely on these default values for basic EMF detection without a lab calibration setup? It depends on how accurate a measurement you want to perform. Take a look at Figure 25 as an example and lets just focus on ambient temperature (black curves). Pick an input level, say -15 dBm. If you apply -15 dBm to multiple devices, you will get an output voltage that will range from around 1.5V to around 1.7V (i.e. the vertical thickness of the black distribution if you look at the -15dBm slice). In dB error terms, this corresponds to around 3 dB (we get this number by doing a horizontal slice at the same point on the graph. 

    Any guidance, corrections, or pointers to calibration recommendations would be great to me? We generally recommend two point calibration, that is apply a low level (say -30dBm) and a high level (+5dBm) and measure the two output voltages. With these four points you can back calculate the slope and intercept of that particular device at that particular frequency (i.e. Vout = Slope x (Pin - Intercept) where slope is in mV/dB and intercept is in dBm). 

    Once you have an equation for the behavior you can rewrite the equation as Pin = Vout/Slope + Intercept to figure out your intput level. If you are trying to calculate EMF in volts the equations need to be rewritten slightly. It might be simplest to calculate the EMV in dBV and then convert this back to V. 

  • By the way, is there a reason you are looking at such an old part? While AD8362 is in full production, there are better newer alternatives. 

  • Thank you for your patience in replying to all my questions, It has helped me a lot ,

    My goal is to build a high-frequency EMF (electromagnetic field) detector. During my research, I found that the AD8362 TruPwr detector is often recommended as a suitable option, so I chose to use it. After ordering the board, I connected it to an Arduino, but it's not working as I expected.

    I come from an AI/ML background and I'm very new to analog electronics, so this has been a bit challenging for me.

    If there's a better approach or method for building an EMF radiation detector, It would help me a lot.

  • I assume that you are connecting the AD8362 voltage output to the input of ADC on the Arduino. If this is not working, take a step back and measure the output voltage from AD8362 using a voltmeter to see if it is operating correctly. You could also feed a dc voltage into the Arduino's ADC to see if it is configured properly. Whether AD8362 is suitable for detection of Electromagnetic Radiation will depend on the frequency or the radiation and the range over which it varies. Different RF detectors have different frequency ranges and detection ranges.  So I would start there.