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MAX2830 Rx IQ Outputs common-mode voltage changes on VGA change

Category: Hardware
Product Number: MAX2830

Hello!

I have MAX2380 in my ISM-receiver project. It has 4-layer PCB routed as in the EVKIT reference design. It works just fine except of one significant issue.

MAX2380 is configured to Rx mode ( nSHDN = 1, RXTX pin = 0), all registers loaded with recommended default values, all controls work well (frequency tuning, filter bandwidth change, LNA, VGA, etc.).

On default settings the common-mode voltage on all Rx IQ Outputs stays about 0.9 V the same on all outputs (pins 35 to 38). It is correctly adjusted by programming bits D11:D10 in Register 15.

Here is the issue. On VGA settings (bits D4:D0 in Register 11) greater then "0" the common-mode voltage of Rx IQ Outputs change. Voltage on RXBBI- (pin 37) and RXBBQ+ (pin 36) rises up. Voltage on RXBBI+  (pin 38) and RXBBQ- (pin 35) falls down. The voltage is different on "+" and "-" branches of diff-pair output. This strange behavior depicted bellow.

On VGA values about 9-11 voltage on RXBBI- and RXBBQ+ grows to about 1.9 V while RXBBI+ and RXBBQ- falls down to 0.5 V.

On greater VGA values voltages grow to about 2.5 V and fall down to 0.4 V tending to VCC and 0V respectively. Actual unaffected VGA control range appears to be 0..8 instead of 0..31 as mentioned in the datasheet.

This behavior causes a IQ gain imbalance and huge waveform saturation on VGA values greater then 10-12. Even internal noise is IQ-disbalanced and saturated with no input connected. Actual spurred 

This VGA behavior is observed on different PCB prototypes specially built for this. It does not depend on PCB routing. It appears the same with SPI as well as parallel gain control methods. This does not depend on the Rx outputs termination (open, differential load, pull-up or pull down). It does not depend on other settings and registers. With minor differences it appears on 10+ chips ordered in official distributors.

I found related issue with similar chip here:

 MAX2831 IQ output DC offset drifting 

but it is not so helpful.

Looking forward for some good advice.

  • Hi Viol,

    It seems like the problem is more that you have large dc offsets on your baseband outputs. Do you have the dc-offset correction enabled and have you tried adjusting its corner frequency. I would suggest enabling and disabling the dc offset correction function to see if it has any impact. 

    As an experiment, I would also suggest grounding the RF input to see if that impacts things?

    Do you have an evaluation board for the MAX2830 that would allow you to try and reproduce the issue there?

    Best Regards

    Eamon

  • Hello Eamon

    DC offset correction has no effect, RXHP pin state as well as Bits D13:D12 in Register 7. Neither grounding the RF input.

    Obviously this is VGA fault. On the block diagram VGA is the last stage of signal path, so there is no stages to bypass.

    Unfortunately I have no ev-board, unreasonably expensive for this simple chip. 

  • Hi Viol,

    I discussed your issue with a colleague who knows the part a little better than I do. He is going to try and set it up on the bench to see if he can reproduce your issue but that will take around a week (need to get a board and other issues). Looking through the datasheet, I did have a few thoughts for things you may want to try (if you have not tried them already). 

    1. Is the behavior impacted by the front end RF gain setting (i.e. LNA Gain Control)?
    2. There is a setting for the ac-coupling corner frequency at the baseband output (setting listed in Table 7). Does changing these settings impact the behavior. 

    Best Regards

    Eamon

  • Thank you Eamon!

    Unfortunately neither LNA gain nor HPF corner frequency do not affect on this common mode DC behavior.

    Here I have some interesting observations and testings

    1. Some IC examples have DC offset drifting similar as described here  MAX2831 IQ output DC offset drifting Some other examples have DC offset away just after VGA gain change

    2. Actually this issue is mostly typical for recently ordered chips (beginning of 2025 year)

    3. Chips ordered in 2023 have no this issue so distinct. Common mode voltages change just about +/- 200 mV and unaffected VGA control range is almost full 0..31 (Thus EvBoard built on early manufactured chips may work just properly)

    Still looking forward for any ideas.

  • One of my colleagues set up the board and got the following results. So he is not seeing what you are seeing.  Any progress on your side?

    Eamon

                                                                      Gain set at 23=36 dB     Gain set at 5=0 dB
                                                                      Volts                                       Volts
    1.    RXBBQ-                        1.15                                         1.15
    2.    RXBBQ+                       1.15                                         1.15
    3.    RXBBI-                          1.13                                         1.13
    4.    RXBBI+                         1.13                                         1.13

    Supplies:
                                     Volts                      mA
                    1.              2.85                       72
                    2.            +5                            0
                    3.            -5                             0
                    4.            3.3                           4