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LT7809 eval board and our board has startup problems when device is cold

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The user reports unexplained rising output voltage on the LT7809-AZ eval board and a custom board when the chip is below room temperature, with the voltage stabilizing after 20-50 seconds. The issue is resolved when the chip is warmed above 25°C. The problem occurs with both external and internal voltage references, and the output voltage is approximately 26V with an input of 45-50.4V.
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Category: Hardware
Product Number: LT7809

With both the eval-LT7809-AZ as well as our own board much like the eval board I see unexplained rising output when the chip is below room temp

The voltage will get to target voltage but it can take 20 to 50 seconds.  The voltage ramps up to some value such as 15V then gradual does jumps up (and back down) several volts over many seconds

If I warm the LT7809 mildly to just above 25C room temp everything works well including expected slow start ramp of 20msec.  

I have used the eval board and our own board on-board voltage source for EXTVCC or use chip internal reference, both seem to have same issue.  This is AFTER the choice of voltage to use for bias and may be some internal chip reference.

If I cool down the chip or even have it start up first time in the morning where room temp is 20C or lower I can see unexpected output rise.

This is on the eval board as well as our own board..  In both the eval and our own board this happens.  

The chip has code  B61779 in both cases.

Is this a known issue with next rev chip planning to look at this or is thing new and unknown issue to your team?

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  • Hi Mark,

     

    We believe the issue you are experiencing is caused the moisture forming around the IC, rather than temperature alone. 

     

    The product team conducted the following tests:

     

    1. Continuously monitored the output while applying freeze spray to the IC. The output continued to regulate normally.

       

      2. Stopped applying freeze spray while continuing to monitor the output, The IC would thaw and moisture formed around the IC. The output then began to drift, similar to the behavior you observed.

       

      3. Performed a controlled test in an environmental chamber, lowering the temperature without introducing moisture. The device continued to operate normally.

     

    CONTROLLED TEST CONDITIONS:
    VIN=48V, VOUT=12V, RLOAD=1kΩ, TEMP=-40C
    (JP2) MODE=FCM, (SW3) RUN=ON, (JP1) PLLIN=FIXED, (JP7) PULSE POLARITY=COMP, (SW2) INT POWER=ON, (JP4) VOUTADJ SOURCE=INT

     

    Thanks,

    Vanessa Roque

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  • Hi Mark,

     

    We believe the issue you are experiencing is caused the moisture forming around the IC, rather than temperature alone. 

     

    The product team conducted the following tests:

     

    1. Continuously monitored the output while applying freeze spray to the IC. The output continued to regulate normally.

       

      2. Stopped applying freeze spray while continuing to monitor the output, The IC would thaw and moisture formed around the IC. The output then began to drift, similar to the behavior you observed.

       

      3. Performed a controlled test in an environmental chamber, lowering the temperature without introducing moisture. The device continued to operate normally.

     

    CONTROLLED TEST CONDITIONS:
    VIN=48V, VOUT=12V, RLOAD=1kΩ, TEMP=-40C
    (JP2) MODE=FCM, (SW3) RUN=ON, (JP1) PLLIN=FIXED, (JP7) PULSE POLARITY=COMP, (SW2) INT POWER=ON, (JP4) VOUTADJ SOURCE=INT

     

    Thanks,

    Vanessa Roque

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