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LTM4616 startup with RUN signal low

Category: Hardware
Product Number: LTM4616

Hello

I have a board with an SoC which has a core voltage provided by LTM4616 as an upstream switcher and two LT3071s as downstream LDOs in parallel. The setup resembles the example from Firgure 9 in LT3071 datasheet, but with 2 LT3071s, configured to give 0.8V output. 

All three regulators are activated by a common RUN signal that comes from a power manager IC. In principle, everything is fine, the voltage output is stable as desired but I have noticed one peculiar phenomenom: the LTM4616 output is active, as high as 4V, even when RUN signal is low. How can this be?

I payed the attention to the datasheet info, and learned that TRACK mode keeps the part up and running even when RUN is low, so I made sure that TRACK pin is tied to SVIN. What else could be keeping the IC output high? It's worth mentioning that as soon as the RUN signal is high, this voltage drops down to the expected 1.2V, that is 300mV above the LDO output, indicating that the VIOC loop does its job.

Here is the excerpts from my circuit diagramm:

Non related to this issue, the example from the Figure 9 in the LT3071 datasheet specifies that FB should be tied to the input voltage rail. Why is that so? Doesn't it beat the purpose of the switcher regulation when the downstream LDO is inactive?

best regards

  • The LT3071 datasheet text essentially says you program FB of the switcher to limit the worst-case output of the switcher, so connecting FB of the switchers to VIN will essentially turn the switchers off unless the VIOCs tell the switchers to ramp up.  I show the datasheet text in the image below.  I went ahead and loaded the Figure 9 circuit you cite into LTspice and uploaded it, so you can try disabling the LT3071s and the switchers should have low outputs in that case.  The other image below is just everything running in the simulation.

    LT3071 ds vioc FB_0.png

    sim ckt and result_1.png

    4616 LT3071_1.asc

  • so connecting FB of the switchers to VIN will essentially turn the switchers off unless the VIOCs tell the switchers to ramp up.  

    I somehow failed to see this - I thought tying FB to VIN will force the output to some higher level. But yeah, once you think about it by looking at the inner block diagram, it makes perfect sense.

    My original issue was that LTM4616 output was always on, at around 4V even when RUN signal was low, I thought initally that it has something to do with VIOC loop, but it turned out it is some leakage from the BIAS circuit of LT3071

    Thanks for the simluation effort, I'm playing with it.