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LT8490 gets hot during float. It stops using EXTVCC.

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Product Number: LT8490

Hello, I am back with another obscure issue.

What would cause the LT8490 to get hot during float charging only? This was my initial question. But I found out that LT8490 switches back to VIN supply which is high voltage despite EXTVCC being available. Now my question is: why would the LT8490 switch to VIN for its power when EXTVCC is available during float stage?

I did an experiment to prove this was the case: connecting an external power supply to EXTVCC who displays current output. I put it at the most efficient voltage for the LT8490 which is 7V = EXTVCC. On the board normally it gets 24V, but I cut that line and put 7, also tried 12V and 24. (The results are the same; EXTVCC is forfeited during float.)

At 7V EXTVCC, The chip used about 20 to 30mA from EXTVCC until it entered float. In float, amps into EXTVCC became zero but switching is still active and outputting about 2Amps to charge the battery. It is still operating the switches, with zero EXTVCC amp draw, which means it is indeed drawing power from VIN during float stage which is 45 to 50V solar. This makes the chip hot.

Some other details:
50V solar input, 44V absorption out, 41V float, these are rounded numbers.

30A max. Was doing about 15A out during bulk, then absorption down to 2A, then float engaged and the chip stopped using EXTVCC and got hot while still doing 2A float. I promptly shut it off because I am uncomfortable with that heat. It was room temp up to this point during a nicely sustained 15A charging.

I put my thumb on the LT8490 up until it floats and inside about 2 seconds its hot to touch. It is instant when float stage begins. I also see it get hot precisely when I see my EXTVCC amps go from 30mA to zero.

I will be reading the papers again but does anyone have an educated guess as to why it is doing this? Is this normal? It's really bad for me.

Thanks!

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  • Ok so, to clarity

    The LT8490 switches from EXTVCC to VIN for its power during low charging current. That's really bad for me because I have very high input voltage and my FETs take a lot of current (big gates and a parallel gates too); the chip gets hot converting 50V to 6.35V.

    Is there any reason why I cannot disconnect VIN from the input voltage line, and instead connect it to EXTVCC who gets a 7V supply? (7V being most efficient for LT8490).

    I don't see anywhere that VIN is an input sense of any kind. And naturally, this chip would be like other feedback loops like a simple amplifier; it doesnt know the input voltage to determine buck-boost-buck/boost stages. It just does what is necessary to reach the set output voltage with FBOUT. FBIN is optional, and VIN is just power.

    I am speaking from the LT8705's perspective who does not have solar readings. the 8490 does but that is through VINR and FBIN; not VIN (presumably)

    With that assumption I will do an experiment with a box-cutter and cutting the trace to VIN and soldering it to EXTVCC. Wish me luck.

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  • Ok so, to clarity

    The LT8490 switches from EXTVCC to VIN for its power during low charging current. That's really bad for me because I have very high input voltage and my FETs take a lot of current (big gates and a parallel gates too); the chip gets hot converting 50V to 6.35V.

    Is there any reason why I cannot disconnect VIN from the input voltage line, and instead connect it to EXTVCC who gets a 7V supply? (7V being most efficient for LT8490).

    I don't see anywhere that VIN is an input sense of any kind. And naturally, this chip would be like other feedback loops like a simple amplifier; it doesnt know the input voltage to determine buck-boost-buck/boost stages. It just does what is necessary to reach the set output voltage with FBOUT. FBIN is optional, and VIN is just power.

    I am speaking from the LT8705's perspective who does not have solar readings. the 8490 does but that is through VINR and FBIN; not VIN (presumably)

    With that assumption I will do an experiment with a box-cutter and cutting the trace to VIN and soldering it to EXTVCC. Wish me luck.

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