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Schematic review request for RS232 to 1.8V–5V TTL level shifter

Category: Hardware
Product Number: LTC2802

Hi,

I drew the following schematic:

It is an interface between RS232 and logic powered between 1.8V and 5V.
I would ask you for a review.
Especially the LEDs on the RS232 signals, I am afraid they cause too much degradation.

I tried two other variations.
One is this:

In this case, RS232 signals are connected to transistor bases. But the specification talks about a 3k load, so again I suspect it may not work. You also see two different configurations, one using VDD and VEE and one using only VDD. I don't know which one might be better.

in the last variant, I moved the leds to the ttl side, and thus the logic of turning on the leds must reverse:

again there are two variants, a simpler one but with worse consumption and a more complex one.
The question here, as in the previous case, is whether I can drain all this current from the VDD and VEE pins. There is no indication of this in the datasheet, so I suspect that I can't really use them at all.
If so, I would have to give up any LEDs on my board.

so in addition to reviewing the connections and components around the LTC2802, I ask if there is a reliable way to have activity LEDs on both rx and tx considering that the only reliable power supply I have can be as low as 1.8V.

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  • Hi,

    The VDD and VEE pins are not output pins, so they should not be used as a supply source for external circuits. They are for positive and negative supply rails for the RS-232 driver only. Typical LEDs draw about 20mA, and that could interrupt signal lines. I am not aware of any ultra-low forward voltage and low current LED can be used with a single 1.8V supply. In addition, please note all our guaranteed specs on our EC table refers to either typical application circuit or test circuits on page 5 and 6 of the datasheet.

    Best,

    Jane

  • Hi Jane,

    In fact, I had guessed that was the case.

    I modified my schematic:


    I would ask you for a review.

    Particularly connections, capacitor values, etc. Basically, I'm asking if you see any errors or critical issues.

    best regards
    Max

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