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KCC's Quizzes AQQ253 about a funny equation

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  • So we can get value of t as (-5+i√79) /2 and  (-5-i√79) /2 so value of x will be log( -5+i√79) /2*log2 and  (-5-i√79) /2*log2.

    Not sure if we can calculate further. 

    If we can please help me know more about that. 

  • Use the Euler transformation:   a + b i   =  r*exp(i*t)    with r^2  = a^ + b^2   and t is the angle with a base "a" and a rise "b". 
    So  ln(a+bi)  =  ln( r*exp(it)) = ln(r) + ln(exp( i*t ))  =  ln(r)  +  i*t  

    (Euler transform is like to transform a point to polar coordinate  from its cartesian coordinates (real and imaginary axis))

  • If you calculate x from the complex solutions you express the numbers as |mag| times e^(iTheta).  Then you use the natural log (ln) to solve for x.  This results in an infinite number of answers separated by 2Pi.

  • Tahnks  for your reply!

    Yes, 2.321925 is well a solution to the equation, congratulations! BUT it is not the only one; there are 2 other ones! May be you can find them?

  • Yes! @Sina22! You get it. The expressions fo the 2 complex values can be simplified as -2.5 +/- i 4.4444


  • And it is time to publish the official answers for this quiz about the funny equation. In fact most of you have found the real solution which is Ln(5)/Ln(2) = 2.322. BUT the question is about ALL the possible solutions! And there are solutions that are in the complex world.

    Here below is the detailed development:

    Let’s rewrite the equation as:

    (23)x + 2x = 130

                      Or:    (2x)3 + 2x = 130 and lets pose 2x = y

                      Therefore: y3 + y = 130

                      One can observe 130 = 26 * 5

                      BY adding and substracting 26y, the equation can be rewritten as:

                               y3 + y + 25y – 25y = 26*5

                      Hence: y3 + 26y – 25y - 26*5 = 0

                      By making specific grouping: (y3 – 25y) + (26y - 26*5) = 0

                      Hence: y(y²-25) +26(y-5)=0  or y(y-5)(y+5) + 26(y-5)=0

                      (y-5) (y(y+5)+26=0 or (y-5) (y²+5y+26)=0

                      The above equation has 3 solutions for y; 1 real and 2 complex

                      The real solution is y=5 giving x = Ln(5)/Ln(2) = 2.322

                      The complex solutions are given by y²+5y+26 = 0

                                        y = [-5 +/-SQRT(25-4*26)]/2 = [-2.5 +/-0.5*SQRT(-79)]

                                       y = [-2.5 +/-0.5*i*8.888] = (-2.5 +/-i*4.444)

    Congratulation to all having found at least the real solution and big applause to the ones having found the 3 solutions  from Cavite/Philippines, @retiredEE from USA and  from India !

    Now, be all prepared for the next coming quiz which will be more dedicated to our electronic engineers...

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  • Fully correct  ! You found the real solution, but there are 2 complex solutions as well...