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A funny algebra puzzle!

a and b are real numbers

We have the following expressions:

a² - b² = 9

a.b = 3

Question: what are the value(s) for a and b ?

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  • From a.b=3: a=3/b

    Substitute a=3/b to a^2-b^2=9

    (3/b)^2 - b^2 = 9

    9/b^2 - b^2 = 9

    Multiply both sides by b^2

    9 - b^4 = 9b^2

    b^4 + 9b^2 - 9 = 0

    Solving for the roots will obtain the following:

    b1 = √[(-9+3√13)/2]

    b2 = -√[(-9+3√13)/2]

    b3 = √[(-9-3√13)/2]

    b4 = -√[(-9-3√13)/2]

    Since the square root of a negative number is imaginary, b3 and b4 are not answers

    Substitute the values of b to obtain a:

    a1 = 3/√[(-9+3√13)/2]

    a2 = -3/√[(-9+3√13)/2]

    The values for a and b are the following:

    a1 = 3/√[(-9+3√13)/2]

    a2 = -3/√[(-9+3√13)/2]

    b1 = √[(-9+3√13)/2]

    b2 = -√[(-9+3√13)/2]

  • a² - b² = (a+b)(a-b) = 9 =3x3

    (a+b) = 3 
    (a-b) = 3

    2a = 6

    a=3

    b=0

    cannot be true as b=3/a = 1

  • Starting with:

    a2 – b2 = 9

    a.b = 3

     

    From second equation:

    b = 3/a

    b2 = 9/a2

     

    Substitute into first equation:

    a2 – 9/a2 = 9

     

    Subtract 9 from both sides:

    a2 – 9/a2 – 9 = 0

     

    Multiply top and bottom by a2

    a4 – 9a2 – 9 = 0

     

    Let a2 = x

    x2 – 9x – 9 = 0

     

    General quadratic equation ax2 + bx + c = 0

    a = 1; b = – 9; c = – 9

     

    Solved by formula x = [–b ± √ (b2 – 4ac)] / 2a

    x = (9 ± √(81+36)) / 2 = (9 ± √(117)) / 2

     

    Take out a factor of 3 from top

    x = 3(3 + √13) / 2 or x = 3(3 – √13) / 2

     

    So

    x = 9.908…

    x = –0.908

     

    As x = a2

    a = √x

    so a = 3.148

     

    b = 3 / a

    b = 0.953

  • Thank you Gaetano! As recommended by our Engineer Zone administrators, the final answers will be confirmed later (just before the new quiz launch; this always in order to not influence or perturb our other participants who are still trying to answer...

  • Many thanks Fons! It's indeed a little bit more complex with the dot line in a.b not being a simple decimal point...As stated for Gaetano, the final answer will be confirmed in a few days...

  • Thanks a lot Sona for your prompt reply! Your answer will be confirmed in a few days! Stay tuned!

  • Thanks Joachim for your prompt reply! You are right with a=5, b=4 for the first equation (a²-b²=9). But they are not OK for the second equation a*b=3 since 4*5= 20 !

    May be you want to retry?

  • Thanks Mark for your extensive math development. As stated earlier, all the answers will be confirmed (or not) in a few days when the new quiz will be launched. This, mainly to let everybody the chance to try to solve the puzzle....

  • Hello Rajesh! Happy to hear from you again! Thanks to have proposed your answers to this math puzzle (not so simple at the end!). However, what I can say here is : there well real solutions for these equations! Your development is correct but you started with an incomplete assumption already from the beginning. In effect a²-b² can be split as (a-b)*(a+b). BUT then, it is very limitative to just say a+b = 3 and a-b=3. This was because you have assumed only integer values in the equation. There are infinite number of real values a and b satisfying a²-b²=9. May be you want to retry?

  • Thanks Martin for your so detailed development:! As stated previously: "rendez-vous" in few days to see if the anwers are confirmed!