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Analog input resistance and bias/leakage current of ADE9113

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The user inquired about the input impedance values and bias/leakage current of the analog input pins on the ADE9113, noting unusual values compared to typical expectations. The support engineer confirmed the differential input specs are correct and explained the higher impedance on current pins due to the active amplifier. The TS4148 diodes, suggested for protection, are expected to perform similarly with the ADE9113 as with the ADE79xx series, but the user should verify leakage current impact on their specific high-impedance voltage measurements.
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Category: Datasheet/Specs
Product Number: ADE9113

Hello, I'm interested in using ADE9113 for measuring input voltage and input current in a traction inverter.

1) In the datasheet, it surprised me to see the input impedance of the analog pins reported as typically 3900k for the current pins, and 370k for the voltage pins. Usually, it's the other way around. Did the values perhaps get switched?

2) Is any data available about the bias current or leakage current of the analog inputs?

3) In the datasheet for ADE7912/ADE7913, TS4148 diodes are suggested for protection of the analog input pins. I understand that the reverse leakage and forward "leakage" current are important parameters when choosing a diode for this purpose. Mostly for the voltage inputs since the source impedance is typically high (about 5kOhm in my application). Has TS4148 been verified as suitable for the task? I tried to extrapolate the curves in the datasheet and it seems the typical forward current at 200mV is in the range 1-10 uA, which would cause a large error in the voltage measurement.

Best regards

  • Hi, 

    The differential input specs are correct. I unfortunately don't have data beyond what's in the datasheet.  

    The IP/IM ADC channel has an active amplifier. That also why that channel has higher gain that V1P/V1M and V2P/V2M.

    UG-571 (Figure 6, for the ADE79xx) shows an example using Taiwan Semiconductor diode pn#TS4148 RZ. They are in series to reduce leakage current when the ADC input is close to full scale. That would work for the ADE9113 also. 

    Regards,

    Jason

  • Hi Jason, thanks for helping.

    Has TS4148 been verified as suitable for the task? I tried to extrapolate the curves in the datasheet and it seems the typical forward current at 200mV is in the range 1-10 uA, which could cause a large error in the voltage measurement.

  • Hi, 

    I'm not aware of the TS4148 being tested paired up specifically with the ADE9113, but I wouldn't expect the diodes to perform differently.

    With either ADC, we're typically measuring ~240V line voltage through a 1kΩ/1MΩ voltage divider. Since the circuit and the input on the ADC channel stays the same, I don't see a reason to expect a different leakage through the diode influencing the measurement there.

    That said, it sounds like you're measuring DC if you're looking at the input side of the traction inverter. You probably have other ways to control how far from nominal input signals goes. The additional protection diodes will not be needed if there is no way for the ADC input pins to see voltages beyond the Abs Max values.  

    Regards,
    Jason