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AD7293 EVAL BOARD

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The user encountered issues with closed loop 3 after applying a 20V, 50mA external power supply, suspecting damage to the board. The final answer suggests adding an Rfilter resistor to prevent current spikes through the back-to-back diodes on the AD7293. For AVSS issues, the user should connect an external AVSS voltage to -5.2V and check for shorts or malfunctioning components, particularly the polarization of D3.
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Hi,

I have a few queries.


1. I have been working with the on board FETs(on daughter board) for the closed loop and everything was working fine.

Then, I connected an external FET CMPA0060002F1,  which has VDD=28V and IDQ=100mA . I changed the RSENSE3 resistor to 10ohms(to get a max of 20mA drain current) and it was also working fine in the closed loop. 

Then I tried the external power supply of 5V, 200mA and 10V, 100mA through vpp3 of the eval board (since I was working with closed loop3) and it worked well, until I changed the supply to 20V, 50mA. The gate voltage rose to something in mA range and now closed loop3 doesn't work  even for the onboard FETs. I checked that only upto 10mA drain current.

Fortunately, the FET is not dead and I tried closedloop2 which works fine with 5V and 10V external through VPP2.  I was wondering if there anything I should take into consideration before checking the board with 20V or above. Is there something on  the path which get destroyed by 20V or larger voltage? What is the max voltage that can be applied through VPP0-VPP3? What should I be careful with if I work with closed loop0 or closed loop1 with PA_ON and external power supply greater than 20 V? Are the currents from the supply high enough to destroy the current sensors?

2. Also, I think the board have AVSS issue. AVSS is only -4.0V.  Say I set VCLAMP1 =  1.77V with PU1 push button. So the power up gate voltage is supposed to be -3VCLAMP = -5V, but what I get is -4V, which is AVSS. The max negative voltage GATE can go is AVSS which makes sense. But why is  AVSS -4V only?  How can I get that to be ~-5V.?

This is my 2nd eval board and my first board always has the gate voltage of -2.9V on power up.  AVSS voltage was around -3.3V and what I got as power up gate voltage was -2.9V.  The IC ADP3605ARZ was also not damaged and I checked the voltage across the resistors R82 and R18, and it was -3.3V. I tried to apply external -5V, but something was drawing more current and AVSS was still -3.3V. I removed U5 and  U6 and tried again, but it didnt solve the issue. What could have gone wrong with AVSS ?

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[edited by: DenG2 at 7:34 AM (GMT -4) on 28 Sep 2023]
  • Hi  ,

    I am working on your request, please give me some time to evaluate the scenario you have outlined. 

    Regards,

    Arnost

  • Hi  ,

    let's split answers into "two threads".

    1. I have been working with the on board FETs(on daughter board) for the closed loop and... (Query raised)

    Concerning your first question, I was looking at the description of the challenge you have encountered.

    What comes to my mind is following Engineering Zone query (for reference :  AD7293 PAVDD Issue ). 

    I believe you should consider the same, when enabling higher voltages. And add Rfilter resistor to eval. board.

    Let me copy the snippet of the answer from the mentioned EZ thread  AD7293 PAVDD Issue . 

    "

    Could there have been a brief spike across the RSENSE when enabling the 50 V?

    There are internal back-to-back diodes between RS+ and RS- for ESD protection. The diodes are capable of passing a maximum of 30mA – keeping the differential voltage to <300mV guarantees that the safe current is not exceeded.

    Note that if series resistance is added it should only be in RS- for the AD7293, and it will affect the gain of the amplifier due to the 224k input impedance.

    The image below shows the 105uA supply current that flows into the RS+ pin, and the RFILTER positioned to limit the current that can flow through the back-to-back diodes and out of RS-. The key point is to never allow more than 30mA to flow through either of those diodes.

    There is actually provisions on the evaluation board to add these components, you are using the capacitor footprint for the 0.33 RSENSE. 

      "

    Regards,

    Arnost

  • Hi  , 

    is there any update concerning the challenge described above?

    Regards,

    Arnost

  • Hi  ,

    my apologies for late reply, I was looking into your query.

    2. Also, I think the board have AVSS issue. AVSS is only -4.0V.  Say I set VCLAMP1 =  1.77V with PU1 push button. So the power up gate voltage is supposed to be -3VCLAMP = -5V, but what I get is -4V, which is AVSS. The max negative voltage GATE can go is AVSS which makes sense. But why is  AVSS -4V only?  How can I get that to be ~-5V.?

    I would suggest to connect external AVSS voltage to -5.2V (Slightly "below -5V")  and configure part to Bipolar DAC range: −5 V to 0 V.

    This is my 2nd eval board and my first board always has the gate voltage of -2.9V on power up.  AVSS voltage was around -3.3V and what I got as power up gate voltage was -2.9V.  The IC ADP3605ARZ was also not damaged and I checked the voltage across the resistors R82 and R18, and it was -3.3V. I tried to apply external -5V, but something was drawing more current and AVSS was still -3.3V. I removed U5 and  U6 and tried again, but it didnt solve the issue. What could have gone wrong with AVSS ?

    It looks that AVSS is short-circuit somewhere on the board. Negative power supply from U3 is weak and it's voltage drops with applied load.  Something malfunctioning on the board proves also, when applied external voltage -5V, that actual AVSS was "clamped" to -3.3V. First which comes to my mind, is to check polarization of D3. Unfortunately I cannot see the same issue on my setup. 

    Regards,

    Arnost