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Trace length matching on clock and JESD lines

Category: Hardware
Product Number: AD9208

HI

There has been a lot of discussion and talk about how to align data and clock lines in JESD circuits. But the result is not very clear

 Lane rate=10Gbps

sample rate=1Ghz

What I have understood is as follows:

1)According to the JESD204B Survival Guide, the DEVICE CLOCK lines are the same length as each other & the SYSREF CLOCK lines are the same length as each other. And the DEVICE CLOCK lines should be shorter than the SYSREF CLOCK lines.

DCLK trace length <SYSREF trace length < DCLK trace length + 1 inch

2) the DEVICE CLOCK & CORE CLOCK & REFERENCE CLOCK lines are the same length as each other.

3)JESD lines in ADC1 which consists of 8 lanes, can be the same length or have a slight deviation in length from each other, which is about 4 mm in my board. And in JESD lines, we are not allowed to use the accordion method for the same length on the PCB.jesd204b structure is okay with a slight length deviation.

4)JESD lines in ADC2 which consists of 8 lanes, can be the same length or have a slight deviation in length from each other, which is about 4 mm in my board. And in JESD lines, we are not allowed to use the accordion method for the same length on the PCB.jesd204b structure is okay with a slight length deviation.

5)The jesd lines of each ADC do not need to be the same length as the other ADC.

6)The SYNC lines of both ADCs must be the same length.

Is my view correct?

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  • Hi  

    Kindly give time for the product owner ( ) to look into this and provide their response.

    Although, I'm not an expert in JESD, this is what I think:

    1. DEVICE CLOCK and SYSREF CLOCK Lines:
      • The DEVICE CLOCK lines should indeed be the same length as each other, and the SYSREF CLOCK lines should also be the same length as each other. The DEVICE CLOCK lines should be shorter than the SYSREF CLOCK lines, with the recommended length difference being less than 1 inch.
    2. DEVICE CLOCK, CORE CLOCK, and REFERENCE CLOCK Lines:
      • These lines should be the same length as each other to ensure proper timing and synchronization.
    3. JESD Lines in ADC1:
      • The JESD lines can have a slight deviation in length from each other, typically within a few millimeters. The accordion method is generally discouraged for JESD204B lines to maintain signal integrity.
    4. JESD Lines in ADC2:
      • Similar to ADC1, the JESD lines in ADC2 can have a slight deviation in length from each other, within a few millimeters. The accordion method should be avoided. Verify differential impedance of the traces is 100 Ω.
    5. JESD Lines Between ADCs:
      • The JESD lines of each ADC do not need to be the same length as the other ADC. Each ADC's JESD lines should be consistent within the ADC itself.
    6. SYNC Lines:
      • The SYNC lines of both ADCs must be the same length to ensure proper synchronization across the devices

    Also note that the minimum sample rate of AD9208 is 2.5 GSPS.

    You can also want to check out other ADC below:

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  • Hi  

    Kindly give time for the product owner ( ) to look into this and provide their response.

    Although, I'm not an expert in JESD, this is what I think:

    1. DEVICE CLOCK and SYSREF CLOCK Lines:
      • The DEVICE CLOCK lines should indeed be the same length as each other, and the SYSREF CLOCK lines should also be the same length as each other. The DEVICE CLOCK lines should be shorter than the SYSREF CLOCK lines, with the recommended length difference being less than 1 inch.
    2. DEVICE CLOCK, CORE CLOCK, and REFERENCE CLOCK Lines:
      • These lines should be the same length as each other to ensure proper timing and synchronization.
    3. JESD Lines in ADC1:
      • The JESD lines can have a slight deviation in length from each other, typically within a few millimeters. The accordion method is generally discouraged for JESD204B lines to maintain signal integrity.
    4. JESD Lines in ADC2:
      • Similar to ADC1, the JESD lines in ADC2 can have a slight deviation in length from each other, within a few millimeters. The accordion method should be avoided. Verify differential impedance of the traces is 100 Ω.
    5. JESD Lines Between ADCs:
      • The JESD lines of each ADC do not need to be the same length as the other ADC. Each ADC's JESD lines should be consistent within the ADC itself.
    6. SYNC Lines:
      • The SYNC lines of both ADCs must be the same length to ensure proper synchronization across the devices

    Also note that the minimum sample rate of AD9208 is 2.5 GSPS.

    You can also want to check out other ADC below:

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