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AD9635 with ADA4930

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The user seeks guidance on switching from a passive to an active input path for the AD9635 ADC driven by the ADA4930 amplifier. The final answer recommends adding the DNI components in the active path and using the ADI-DiffAmpCalc tool to optimize resistor values for the desired input source resistance, common-mode level, and gain. The input common-mode should be decreased to 0.9 V, and the DiffAmpCalc tool can help with this adjustment. The user also notes that the tool does not directly support the ADA4930 topology but can be used with equivalent resistor values.
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Product Number: AD9635

My company would like to use an AD9635 driven by an ADA4930.  The AD9635 evaluation board uses the ADA4930 for channel A, but the default BOM uses the passive path.  I have not been able to find information on what board loading changes should be made to switch to the active path.

Here are my guesses and questions about enabling the active path:

  1. I would guess that most of the "DNI" components in the optional active path (bottom half of schematic sheet 5) should be added (C411, R424, L404, L406, C420, C421, L405, and L407).
  2. The note by those components says the values are place-holders.  What is the recommended way to determine those values for our desired filter characteristics?  (The desired characteristics are not yet know because the sampling rate has not been finally determined.)
  3. On the main input path, I would guess that R403, R404, C404, and C405 should be removed to disconnect the passive circuit, and R414 and R415 should be added to connect the active circuit.
  4. I found an EngineerZone post (AD9635 with ADA4927 as driver) that seems to indicate that R412, R410, R413, and C406 should also be removed, and I would guess that's right.  To go with that, I would guess R424 should be added to connect VCM from the AD9635 to the ADA4930.
  5. Should we add the other DNI components in the top half of schematic sheet 5 (R416, C407, L403, C409, and C410)?  If so, question 2 also applies to the values of these components, I think.
  6. A final question is about getting DC coupling the active path, which we need.  Would shorting C411, C412, C417, C418, and C419 be the right way to do that?  (That seems consistent with the example ADC driver circuits in the ADA4930 data sheet.)

Any assistance will be appreciated, especially for the questions in items 2 and 5.

Thanks,

Dan Alt

Thread Notes

  • Hi,

    I have moved this question about AD9635 to the High-Speed ADCs community.  Someone here should be able to assist you.

    Thanks,
    Janine

  • Hello,

    The circuit shown in the ADA4930 datasheet is recommended for a single-ended, ground referenced input signal (1 Vpp) having 50 ohm source impendence that requires DC coupling to support frequency range down to DC.   The 3rd order differential output filter provides cut-off frequency of 40 MHz as described in description but can be modified to support other cut-off frequencies.  Refer to app note in link for more information on optimizing filter ....  A Resonant Approach to Interfacing Amplifiers to Switched-Capacitor ADCs Application Note (AN-827) (analog.com)

    Note that the input common-mode will need to  decreased to 0.9 V so the input resistor for each differential input will need to be modified as described in ADA4930 datasheet.  The simulation tool with following link would be helpful in optimizing the resistor values for desired input source resistance, common-mode level, and gain.................   ADI-DiffAmpCalc | Analog Devices 




  • Thanks for the pointers to the data sheet, app note, and tools.  I think we're pointed in the right direction now, though my analog EE skills are a bit rusty, so the going has been a bit slow so far.

    I worked out a few things that may be helpful for others in a situation like mine.

    • The DiffAmpCalc doesn't directly support the topology in the ADA4930 "Input Common-Mode Adjustment with Resistors" schematic.  However, I noticed that the resistor values are nearly identical to those in the "with DC Biased Source" schematic on the previous page.  With a little thought, I managed to convince myself that the 2 topologies are equivalent if RCM is chosen so that it contributes just enough current to produce the voltage VDC (from "with DC Biased Source") across RG2 (from "with Resistors", which is equal to RG1 + RT || RS).
    • The ADA4930 "with Resistors" calculations seem to initialize RCM to infinity.  At least that's what I did to produce the data sheet's results for steps 1 (β1 and β2).
    • At least the first few calculations for the ADA4930 "with Resistors" topology apparently use VPmin = 0.425 V.  At least that's what I did to produce the data sheet's results for steps 2 (RCM) and 3 (new β1 and β2).

    We haven't really started on the filter yet, so if we get stuck on that I may have some follow-up questions.

    Thanks again,

    Dan

  • Hello Dan,

    In your follow-up questions pertaining to  the ADA4930 specifically..............perhaps best to start new thread so that your questions go directly to factory apps person supporting ADA4930.

    Regards.