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Can the AD603 variable gain amp be operating from a single +V supply?

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The user is experiencing strange behavior with the AD603 Variable Gain Amplifier in a HF receiver when the AGC control voltage is below 4V or above 7V. The final answer clarifies that the common-mode range for GPOS and GNEG should be between +4.2V and +6.6V for a +10V single supply. Additional advice suggests creating a dual-polarity supply with a reference at half the supply voltage or using a dc-dc converter to generate +/-5V from the 10V supply.
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Hello,

I am using Analog Devices AD603 Variable Gain amp in a HF receiver  There are 2 in the IF amp providing both

gain and AGC.  I run the amp from a single regulated 10V supply.  The V- pin is connected to the +10V return. The common terminal is biased at 1/2 the supply voltage.

From the data sheet the only constraint on the gain control voltage is that it be kept within the common-mode range (−1.2 V to +2.0 V assuming +5 V supplies) of the gain control interface.

The question involves the Gain control interface.  On the spec sheet, looks like an op input.  The spec says the common-Mode range is

-1.2 to +2.0V.  The agc operates sequentially, the output stage gain is decreased first then the input.  The AGC control voltage

range is 1 V at each stage.  So the bias (or AGC Reference) on the output amp is at +5V and input stage is 6 V.  As the Agc voltage

goes from 4.5 to 5.5 the output stage gain is decreased and as it increases from 5.5 to 6.5 the first stage gain decreases.  This works

as designed.  I get over 80 dB of AGC control.   This works well,  but but for voltages below approx 4V and above 7V I see some strange results, like maybe breakdown or something occurring  that causes circuit not work work correctly.  The no-signal input to the AGC amp is suppose to be in  4.2 – 4.4 V.     

I don’t quite understand the common mode range spec.   I assumed I could set the AGC reference voltages between say 2 – 8V, staying at least 2 volts from ground and  Vc.  The ACG voltage would swing over a 2 V range.  Is this impacted by the single supply voltage?  Most of the examples use +/-5 V for supplies.  Is this a limit on the differential  between AGC amp input pins and also timed to a issue with a single supply.       

If Referenced to the common terminal (Gnd) these inputs will set several volts above gnd. and differentially the inputs could see voltages that exceed the common mode spec. 

Thanks,

Ed

  • Hi Ed,

    I don't well understand the circuit you currently have, maybe you can post your schematic to help you better.

    But for your question, Yes, AD603 can work on single supply.For your problem about the common mode range of GPOS & GNEG, it is guaranteed to be in the range of -VS +4.2 V to +VS-3.4 V. So if you have single supply of +10V. GPOS &GNEG should be within +4.2V to +6.6V. I believe this is the thing that you have overlooked that is why you see strange behavior when your control is below 4V and above 7V.

    Regards,

    Phil

  • Hi Ed,

    Thanks for the contact.

    There's a very important caveat when it comes to single supply operation on older ADI products. If you need to operate such parts with a single supply, you also need to create a 'dual polarity' supply with it's own reference at 1/2 the supply voltage. This is demonstrated in the AD8337 (also a dual supply part) data sheet on page 24 where you'll see schematic for three eval board data sheets, figs 80 thru 82. U2 and U3 comprise a common-mode/reference for the AD8337 required for the device to operate.

    Since this approach requires a reference and buffer, more recently I recommend the readily available dc-dc supplies where the system single supply (in your case 10V) is converted to  +/-5V w/'ground. You'll just need to provide enough decoupling at the output of the supply to decouple the lowest expected ac voltage but the approach will allow you to use your 10V supply source.

    We also offer 'true single supply parts such as the AD8331/2/4 where a 'common-mode' reference is generated internally.

    I hope this helps.

    js

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    Thank you,
    EZ Admin

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