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Testing the LT1010 gain (I seem to be getting odd results)

Category: Datasheet/Specs
Product Number: LT1010

Hi,

This is a 2 parter Slight smile, and any help would be much appreciated.

Current Situation:

A previous engineer on my project was trying to use the LT1010 with V-=0V (DC gnd) and V+=12V, whilst trying to get the Vout to swing from 0V to 12V. This chip isn't a rail to rail device but should be able to get an output swing of Vout=0.3V to 11.7V ish if the Vin is 0-12V (ie Vin = 6v so Vout =6v (but with the ability to drive more current if needed)). Now on the next board I need to find a chip that can do rail to rail as mentioned below in part 2.

Part 1: Testing the LT1010

I tested the LT1010, with: V+=12, V-=0V, Vin =0,0.5,1,1.5 ... 11.5,12V then measuring Vout against Vin. The data sheet doesnt mention much about gain linearity but I noticed that when testing Vin <1v the gain seemed to be less then 0.8, is this what should be expected?

Because of this I then tested, with: V+=12, V-=-5V, Vin =-5,-4.5.-4.0 ... 11.5,12V then measuring Vout against Vin. When Vin approached -1 to 1v across 0v, the gain was really poor.

Part 1 Questions:

1. For testing in dual power supply mode why would the gain be poor between -1v and 1v, is this what you expect? if not could you supply a dual supply topology test that i could run?

Part 2: Alternative chips

What I actually need:

I need a voltage Follower / Power Amplifier with unity gain to go from rail to rail with a V- = 0 (or as close to as possible) and V+ probably being around 14-20v and with about 30+ max output. Would anyone be able to suggest a similar chip to the LT1010 that can do this? (from looking it seems really difficult to find appropriate chips for this purpose)

  • Hi  ,


    Good day. Can you share to us your schematic? As for your question 1, can you provide an image of the input and the output? What was the frequency of the input signal? Also, can you provide the measured output voltage per input voltage based on your testing? As for question 2, are there other critical parameters such as bandwidth you might want to consider aside from the one you specified for us to narrow down the selection further? 

    Regards,
    Gilbeys

  • Forgive the terrible picture, please give any feedback as I dont mind being wrong about any of this, I just want to test the chip and get good results. I currently have the chip in a bread board with a voltage on Vin staying constant for about 1 minute, then I change Vin to the next test value. I can provide my dual powers supply test results but will redo the test again to make sure they are reliable results (will post soonish). My previous test results are (V+ is 20V on this test and V- is 0V):

    These results seem reasonable from looking at the data sheet. 

    Vin Vout Gain
    0V - Power supply limited to 1V< -
    0.5V - Power supply limited to 1V< -
    1V - Power supply limited to 1V< -
    2V 1.94V 0.97
    3V 2.94V 0.98
    4V 3.86V 0.97
    5V 4.85V 0.97
    6V 5.81V 0.97
    7V 6.78V 0.97
    8V 7.61V 0.95
    9V 8.58V 0.95
    10V 9.56V 0.96
    11V 10.5V 0.95
    12V 11.5V 0.96

    I will test again when V+ is 12V and V- is -5V

  • In regards to the new device a slew rate that allows for 10-20Mhz would be reasonable. 

  • Hi  ,

    Good day. As for the 1st observation you had, I think it is because if you take a look at the step response of LT1010, it shows the behavior of a unity gain configuration if we input a step signal on it.

    Just an additional question concerning the new device, do you need your output to reach 0 V? We have a high-speed op-amp that you can consider in your application. However, most of these devices were not suitable for single-supply applications. Is a dual-supply configuration a viable option for you?

    Regards,
    Gilbeys

  • Hello,

    I'm temporarily closing this thread. In case there will be additional questions, feel free to reply to this thread. Thank you!

    Best regards,
    Paul