ADC conversion using Instrumentation Amplifier

Hi,

I have a problem deciding which component to choose. In my application I need to measure a loadcell. Sometimes 2 loadcells parallel or 3 loadcells parallel.

Currently what I am doing is to use AD620 in order to amplify signal to +/-10V and filter it, and use a separate A/D module to make measurement. The module is expensive and I need to do it by myself.

The tricky part in my application is that there is a lot of dead weight on my loadcell. I have tried to use complete analog front end IC like ad7730 and ad7190. But with both of them results were bad.

My loadcell is 10kg generally. 2mV/V. And my maximum product weight is 1000 gr. and I need to measure 0,05gr minimum. With a complete front end IC I need to obtain 200000 noise free bits. But there is also vibration in my system and I need to make measurement in 0.3 seconds. So it is impossible for an engineer like me to design such system.

So I am thinking to use an instrumentation amplifier instead of complete front end solution. My plan is as follows;

Supply my bridge with 10V. Also use that voltage to energize AD620. There will be also -10V source. So my output can swing around +/- 9V. With 10V excitation for 0,05gr weight output will be 0,1uV. If I adjust AD620 for 4000 gain. My output change will be 0,4mV. But there is a dead weight on my loadcell so I must adjust reference pin of AD620 so that when there is no weight output will be around zero volts. In order to adjust it, I am planning to use a DAC. But most DAC work with 5V, so there must be an other voltage regulator for it. Also the output of DAC must be fed to an op-amp because I need to get voltage swing around +/-10V. Later I am planning to use an active filter to filter out vibration and than to ADC. Which has capable of accepting bipolar input voltages.

With this design The things that can go wrong for me is drift of DAC voltage. Since output of AD620 is directly related to reference pin. Noise and drift can cause problem. Also since there will be seperate 5V source, can this source cause extra noise in my system? Can there be an other way to make reference voltage for AD620. What do you think of this solution? Any suggested part numbers?

Regards,

DC

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  • Hi,

    What do you think of about my approach basically.

    Alternative 1

    Using 2 power sources +/- 10V and +5V. Feeding Bridge with 10V and op-amps with +/-10V. Using 5 volts to power DAC. Use +/-10V input type ADC.

    Alternative 2

    Using 5V only. Excite bridge with 5V. Use single supply instrumentation amplifier rail to rail type ( ad8553 ). Again rail to rail type op-amps. and DAC.

    As I check single supply op-amps, their spec are not good as dual supply op-amps right? Or they are more expensive compared to dual supplies. But with this design only 1 voltage source is necessary.

    My concern is that I probably can not design circuit like evaluation boards. There will be always some tricky points that effects the performance of IC's. I prefer the 10V alternative because after instrumentation amplifier my loadcell signals swings 0 to 8 volts for 1000gr weight. I have more room for mistakes. But for 5V, the output from the loadcell is 0,05uV for 0,05gr. It will be harder to deisgn it. What do you think?

    Also for -10V, it is hard to make low noise low drift voltage sources. I have used lm317 before, but you set voltages with resistors, typical drift for such an source is 50ppm. Other alternative is using ref02 and boost my current with high current op-amps. But it sounds complicated a lot of components to use. I could not choose which one to try.

    Regards,

    DC

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  • Hi,

    What do you think of about my approach basically.

    Alternative 1

    Using 2 power sources +/- 10V and +5V. Feeding Bridge with 10V and op-amps with +/-10V. Using 5 volts to power DAC. Use +/-10V input type ADC.

    Alternative 2

    Using 5V only. Excite bridge with 5V. Use single supply instrumentation amplifier rail to rail type ( ad8553 ). Again rail to rail type op-amps. and DAC.

    As I check single supply op-amps, their spec are not good as dual supply op-amps right? Or they are more expensive compared to dual supplies. But with this design only 1 voltage source is necessary.

    My concern is that I probably can not design circuit like evaluation boards. There will be always some tricky points that effects the performance of IC's. I prefer the 10V alternative because after instrumentation amplifier my loadcell signals swings 0 to 8 volts for 1000gr weight. I have more room for mistakes. But for 5V, the output from the loadcell is 0,05uV for 0,05gr. It will be harder to deisgn it. What do you think?

    Also for -10V, it is hard to make low noise low drift voltage sources. I have used lm317 before, but you set voltages with resistors, typical drift for such an source is 50ppm. Other alternative is using ref02 and boost my current with high current op-amps. But it sounds complicated a lot of components to use. I could not choose which one to try.

    Regards,

    DC

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