PDM convert to analog

Hi Ovid,

We cannot support products from other manufacturers (like Infineon).

But one suggestion - you should find a way to capture the digital data from the microphone directly. If you convert to analog, then back to digital (in the FFT analyzer), you've got two additional conversions in the analog domain, both of which will add their own noise and distortion.

The ADAU7002 may be useful - I am not familiar with that part myself but it looks like it simply converts PDM to I2S, which may be much easier to capture. You can post questions about this part in the Audio EZ forum.

Also, use your favorite search engine to search "i2s audio analyzer" - that may turn up some ideas.

-Mark

Yes I know, the point is just that, the FFT Analyzer is part of the measurement equipment what I am supposed to use. So I can't get around making an analog signal out of the digital one. Unless there is a possibility to feed the digital signal into the analyzer behind the integrated A/D converter.
Then I save this conversion and with it also losses and disturbances.

However, I still don't know what kind of digital signal the analyzer uses. I can't find anything about it in the data sheets, let's see what the manufacturer says about it.

What exactly is I2S supposed to be for a signal? Why just that?

But thanks for the quick help :)

best regards

Indeed, if the FFT analyzer is targeted at audio applications, it may have a digital input. The Stanford Resarch SR1 has optical / TOSLINK inputs. I've never used them, but there are I2S to TOSLINK converters (do an internet search), and as noted above, PDM to I2S converters.

You will have to do some research and experimentation to see what will actually work, based on what your analyzer will accept. If it is ONLY analog, then yet another option would be to use PDM to I2S, capture the I2S data as an audio file (WAV or some compressed, lossless format), then finally, play back the file through a high-quality sound card to your analyzer. Compare the sound card specs to the expected microphone performance, to make sure that the sound card is NOT the limiting factor.

Again, we can only provide support for Analog Devices products, and if you have specific questions about the ADAU7002 (assuming that's useful to you), check the Engineer Zone Audio forum.

Good luck!

-Mark

I think the closest thing to a single PDM to "analog" output chip we offer is one or another of these kind of PDM to class D audio amplifiers from our Maxim parts:

https://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX98358.pdf

The output will be way bigger / more power than you need to send to the analyzer and will need to be filtered to remove the class D clock switching but with little or now output load and heavy anti-aliasing filter it might have low enough distortion.

There are others in the catalog so do a search to see them all and check the data sheets to see it they might be a fit for your needs.

Thanks guys for the helpful info, I'll take a look.
And if I want to get help on the design then I'll turn to the "Audio" subforum, thanks for the tip!
best regards

Hello dmercer,

I have another specific question. What is this class D clock?

In the datasheet I have read something about 330kHz (+- 20kHz), is it this frequency that I would have to filter out?

Even if it's not about AD, I found another chip in the catalog (sorry), the MAX9050, I think it would fit the digital mic as well.
What do you think of it?

greetings

Ovid

Maxim Integrated is now (very recently) part of Analog Devices. Ideally you would be able to get support for MAX Audio parts such as this in the audio products sub forum here on EngineerZone but not yet. You could try and see if any of the legacy Maxim employees are monitoring here.

You might get better technical answers on the legacy Maxim web site in the mean time while we more fully integrate Maxim:

https://www.maximintegrated.com/en.html

Technical support on that site is not organized like the ADI home site.